BRAVO! I totally agree, well said...I don't believe that I could have said it better myself, marveolus! I hate that damn SOP! It's so boring, it's not like we learn Philosophy, we learn about Philosophers. Philosophers are lazy old guys remembered for random shit that they said and did...it's bogus, completely bogus! We'll probably all work our asses of in our lives and not get remembered, whereas they do shit and are worshipped. That's some pretty stinky Bullshevik right there, if you ask me. I despise the SOP, or in the great words of Hseish: POS!